Sunday, January 23, 2011

#7 Clintons

7 comments:

  1. This cartoon appeals to the ethos of the Clintons. It gives out a message that the Clintons will do what they have to do by force. The idea presented by Paul about the "break the glass ceiling" is an appeal to pathos. It is the idea that women have been discriminated against for far too long and it is time that they elect a women to end this discrimination. It is something that any women who was declined something because they were a women.

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  2. This cartoon shows Hillary standing behind Bill not saying anything and letting him do all the talking for her. This hurts Hillary's Ethos because it shows that without Bill she cannot get the attention of a crowd or make an impact. They both also look really bored in the picture as if they are uninterested and not really very passionate about her position.

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  3. This cartoon depicts Bill running the show and getting support for Hillary; she is subdued and appears to have nothing to contribute to her own political career. She appears to be totally relying on Bill for political gains. An appeal to ethos can be made here with this cartoon because, like Carlie said before, Hillary does not appear to be able to capture a crowd's attention. It says more about the ethos of women in leadership roles and the depiction of men in them. This cartoon illustrates that men, or at least more well-known men in this case, are necessary for the advancement of women, an appeal to the audience's ethos.

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  4. The first thing that caught my attention was the words placed in this cartoon picture. "Help the little lady break the glass ceiling or I'll break every bone in your body". That quote is referring to any audience and no matter what, if you like Hillary or not, Bill Clinton will break every bone in your body if you dont contribute to the support of the Clintons specifically Hillary. I would also like to add that the fact of seeing Hillary stand behind Bill, causes her ethos to go down dramatically because its showing that Bill is the one stepping up to help gain support for Hillary when she should be the one doing so, discrimination or not. I also agree that the both of them look somewhat jaded and not very avid about Hillary's position.

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  5. I am in agreement with the previous posters in regards to the cartoon pointing out Hillary's lack of credibility when it comes to running a political campaign. The cartoon definitely points out that she is playing second fiddle and gains most of her popularity from her marriage to the former president. Furthermore, Kenji hit the nail on the head when he wrote this "This cartoon illustrates that men...are necessary for the advancement of women." Whether or not it's true is up for debate, but the cartoon clearly portrays this.

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  6. I personally agree and disagree with previous blog entry's on the status of women and Hillary's piggy-back of Bill Clinton. I think that it is definately true that Mrs. Clinton uses a lot of her husbands Senate and Presidential credibility to solidify her stance in modern politics because she can not stand on her own merit without using her husband as a crutch. However, I do not believe that all women in todays political hierarchy use men to establish their credibility. Throughout the world today there are many influential female political figures that are stair stepping thier way to top dog through personal achievement and hard work, not because a man has granted her power to achieve a higher status.

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  7. I think a lot of the comments are picking up on the general sense that the cartoon may seem to attack women politicians, but it seems more of a direct attack at Hillary Clinton. The fact that Bill Clinton is the only one talking and being somewhat more direct with the readers, as Carlie stated above, causes an attack on Hillary's ethos as a leader. This is trying to state that Hillary has only come so far in her career because her husband was the President. The logos of this political statement is mainly interpretive, as are all political satires. It is hard to establish any kind of logical points when concerning different opinions without any specific facts. As stated by Kenji and some other posts above, this could be interpreted as an appeal to ethos as a statement that women need powerful men to advance their political standing. This is somewhat true, most women in politics have husbands in politics, and I believe the first three women senators succeeded their husbands. However, if this were truly an appeal to the ethos, I feel like it would be more of an appeal towards Hillary's supporters. This would point out how women are politically weaker than their male counterparts, and the ethos would attempt to cause anger in feminists and others that wish to end this discrimination. Were this the main message of the cartoon, it would most likely backfire and cause more support of Hillary Clinton, so that a woman could be president and we could feel like (ethos) we are a more progressive society.

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